The same mistake again
EDITOR:This is scary. We're a month from the election and it appears that Michigan is poised to make the same mistake again by sending Democrats like Stupak and Levin back so they can dig a bigger hole to throw Michigan and America into.
It also looks like you are going to put Obama in office. Driving around the U.P., I see far too many Stupak and Obama signs.
I do hear words of encouragement from Iron County's Patti Ashcraft but that does nothing to mitigate my feeling of frustration that Yoopers, a race known for their rugged individualism and independence, would help put these socialists into office.
It's all the more depressing when you understand that if the Dems get control of government as predicted, we may lose rights that you can't get back except by force of arms. At the very least, these socialists will put the entire country into the same condition as Michigan is in; that is a depressed economy.
As a retired soldier, in the sunset of my life, I can only take solace that I lived my life in relative freedom. Since I'm totally retired now, I know that all my efforts are to make American life better for those who would carry on after I'm gone. So, I hope you will heed my warning when I assert that if you vote any Dem into office at any level higher than county, you are endorsing their position that only government drives the American condition. Our founders founded this country on the premise that the American people are the engine of this country. But, if you do really believe in a nanny state, vote Democrat.
I come to my conservatism honestly because I spent 43 years of my life in government service. My experience is in technical electronics, technical and general logistics and government contracting of goods and services.
During that time, I learned one unequivocal fact: the private sector does absolutely everything better than the government, except when the government is allowed to meddle with the private sector.
l have learned that, with the uncommon exception of a few dedicated employees, there is very little internal motivation of the employees who are expected to deliver services to the citizens. In government, delivering a service is incidental - almost accidental. The reason is because government competition is more geared toward how well the employee pleases the boss than toward how well a service is delivered to the public. Elsewhere, we call this brown-nosing but it's prized and encouraged in government service. While good service providers do exist at the public interface level, they are extremely rare in government management. Any employee who doesn't pay attention to this dynamic will remain at the lower levels of government unless he's extremely lucky in getting honest supervisors. Anyone who has gone to a government office to get real work done, can attest to the attitudes of most employees there - and now you know why.
And now, the Dems want to control health care, oil production, housing, and a myriad of other disciplines through government. And, they tell you anything to win.
Before Lyndon Johnson, Democrats worked to marshal the power of the American economic system toward raising the condition of the people, but now, they're not only trying to redistribute wealth but are trying to control our markets through controlling supervisory regulation, forcing social engineering on markets and actually taking over companies and entire sectors of the economy.
You should understand that when you introduce government into any sector of the economy, not only are you placing defective decision-making and inefficiency between you and the service, but, you're adding overhead to the service that either you'll pay for, or, everyone else will pay for in their taxes.
In addition to these handicaps to efficiency, you get a lack of imagination that only government is capable of.
So, vote for Stupak, Levin, Obama or any other Democrat above the county level and get $10 a gallon gasoline, inefficient government, lost jobs and lost liberties.
But, before you do vote, dig out and read your copy of "Animal Farm." Put yourself in the place of the horse and the Dems in the place of the pigs.
Maybe then you'll understand what you're dealing with. If you don't know what "Animal Farm" is, you know what the Dems have done to education.
Howard S. Madsen
Crystal Fall
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10-16-08 8:11 PM
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Like Dr. Atkins
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Blackhawk
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10-16-08 3:20 PM
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The only reason Obama wants to re-negotiate NAFTA is so that the he can get more welfare or wealth to spread around.
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ProudVet
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10-16-08 1:25 PM
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boy welfareagle you like to point fingers when the republicans are in charge, but not when the dems are in control. You are pathetic. Vote for Obama if you wish. I just wish there was a more credible canidate on either side. You like to bash the republicans, and cant stand it when the truth comes out about your savior Obama.
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Celliach
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10-16-08 10:51 AM
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angryvet, why do the hmongs get that tax break? Can you tell me what law they are using to get it? Is it just for Hmongs, or can any immigrant get it? Why can't a US citizen use the same law? That's quite a bit of information you just presented without any background. Can you please answer some of the questions that it brings up?
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Celliach
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10-16-08 10:48 AM
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Speaking of free trade, in the debate last night, Obama said we wants to renegotiate free trade agreements and McCain said he wants to let them stand as they are. If this is as an important of an issue to you as you say it is, that should be reason to vote for the democrat this time around.
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angryvet
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10-16-08 2:15 AM
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Whiteagle my opinions on other races are from my experiances amongst them. Not just from what i see on t.v. I don't like anyone who thinks I owe them something or anyone that expects a free hand out just because of who they are and where they came from. One of my biggest hates are towards to hmongs because they come here tax free for 7 years then after 7 yrs they sign there business over to a family member and get another 7 yrs and so on and so forth. Where was my oppurtunity to do this. Oh wait I'm a US citizen.
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 2:02 AM
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This part of the country is more conservative then east or west of US. People here have reservations when it comes to race, although, many of them are children, grand and grand grandchildren of emigrants form Europe. People that moved to UP before 1900 were mostly emigrants. They are good people and hard working folks, but same time they do not like other races, here we think we are on the island isolated from the rest of the country, at least the older ones think that way in my opinion, and I can be wrong on that assumption.
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 1:47 AM
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I guess, I did mix you with proudVet, my bet.
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 1:46 AM
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Oooooo……..I couldn’t tell, but if you read your comments in this forum, they are right-wing comments?
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angryvet
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10-16-08 1:43 AM
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Like I said I don't have a party. where in the world did you get that I'm for one side. I think you have me mixed up with proudvet.
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angryvet
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10-16-08 1:41 AM
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And if you go back none of my posts are politically motivated I for one don't want to see biden as president thou and that is what will happen within a year if obama wins.
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 1:41 AM
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It is funny how you blame the other side and not even a small criticism of your own party! I am coming with one conclusion: you are a bigot.
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angryvet
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10-16-08 1:36 AM
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no it did not slip my mind I'm not for republicans or demacrats I'm a middle class working american and it doesn't matter who the president is I'm still going to get scr ewed
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 1:33 AM
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Fyi – I did not vote for Clinton, not even once!
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 1:31 AM
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That trade was republican congress and senate baby!!! so blame your good friends like McCain. Clinton sign the damm thing but it was Conservatives baby!!! I guess that small matter just sliped your mind.
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angryvet
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10-16-08 1:05 AM
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Nope whiteagle never touched the stuff I'm taking the fact of no comment as you have nothing to say about the signing of the free trade which is what started this countrys downward spiral. When people lose there jobs the economy is never good. Once these companys found out that they didn't have to deal with the unions anymore and didn't have to pay taxes and could pay cheaper wages, it dosen't take rocket scientist to figure out what to do. They couldn't get out of this country fast enough.
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 12:57 AM
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AngryVet - no comment! you smoked to much weed!
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whiteagle
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10-16-08 12:55 AM
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Remember your logic ProudVet, be consistent in your thinking process, and as you previously stated: people that are in charge are responsible for what happens on their watch, according to your logic: Bush is responsible for the 3100 lives lost, it happened on his watch!!!
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angryvet
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10-16-08 12:11 AM
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And if clinton wouldn't have signed the free trade and sent all those jobs overseas then the crime rate would probably still be way down but when the choice is to starve your family or do what you can to feed them sometimes crime is an easier way to go especially in chicago where the criminals were about the only ones who had guns
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ProudVet
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10-16-08 12:04 AM
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"innocent" oops
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ProudVet
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10-16-08 12:03 AM
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Listen here welfareagle OBAMA is in bed with the Radicals. He is corrupt. You still havent said anything that he has done for our country let alone his state. He doesnt have the balls to even join the service and serve his country. And just like McCain said OBAMA isnt running against Bush. OBAMA has played the race card his whole entire life. and now the democrates are trying to use it to win an election. Just cause i dont care for the democrates doesnt make me a racist by any means. what makes me a racist is when a bunch of RAG heads kill 3,100 inncent americans on one single day. Call mea racist if you want. i do not like the diaper heads way of thinking when they support the killing of inncent americans.
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ryan73
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10-15-08 8:12 PM
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So your saying our problem is the democrats hatebreeder?
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ryan73
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10-15-08 8:07 PM
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let me reword that. The Obama cult. Not all demacrats are bad people. They are doing all the welfare and healthcare for the wrong reasons. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.
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angryvet
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10-15-08 7:07 PM
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Whiteonrice you really prove everyones point on here. "Then it will be are turn to enjoy life a little. " You sound like you are mad at us tax payers because we don't give enough to you. Well news flash, if the government were to go back and reevaluate those on disability there will probably be a lot more for the ones who really need it. And no I'm not saying you don't because I don't know. I just wish they would start mandatory urine tests, and if you come up hot you get nothing for 1 yr and if you by chance get it again and come up hot again then you get nothing ever again. Sounds fair to me since I'm subject to a pi ss test just to pay taxes and I then lose my job and go into a national data base that most employers use to hire new employees.
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whiteagle
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10-15-08 12:31 PM
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What ever is going on in Chicago is reflection of last 8 years of Bush’s politics. Urban situations reflect overall country’s economy first, before local can have any impact! We all learned that form history in the past, just look crime during Clinton, it was way down in cities around the country, because economic situation was prosperous. ProundVet, go back to school and take some college classes on economics, because if you had some, your professor didn’t do a good job with you.
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